Feb 20, 2008

Connections

Pride seems even from its name to be concerned with great things; what sort of great things, is the first question we must try to answer. It makes no difference whether we consider the state of character or the man characterized by it. Now the man is thought to be proud who thinks himself worthy of great things, being worthy of them; for he who does so beyond his deserts is a fool, but no virtuous man is foolish or silly. The proud man, then, is the man we have described. For he who is worthy of little and thinks himself worthy of little is temperate, but not proud; for pride implies greatness, as beauty implies a goodsized body, and little people may be neat and well-proportioned but cannot be beautiful. On the other hand, he who thinks himself worthy of great things, being unworthy of them, is vain; though not every one who thinks himself worthy of more than he really is worthy of in vain. The man who thinks himself worthy of worthy of less than he is really worthy of is unduly humble, whether his deserts be great or moderate, or his deserts be small but his claims yet smaller. And the man whose deserts are great would seem most unduly humble; for what would he have done if they had been less? The proud man, then, is an extreme in respect of the greatness of his claims, but a mean in respect of the rightness of them; for he claims what is accordance with his merits, while the others go to excess or fall short. -Aristotle, Nichomachean Ethics

Crashing waves on the timeless sand

Makes you wonder what kind of man

Could stand up to the sea

And on it set sail

Could pilot a boat

That's destined to fail

Out over the water

Between the sea and the sky

Knowing that the boat will sink

And that he will die

--Don Loper

6 comments:

the firths said...

i didn't know you read aristotle. i lvoe nichomachean ethics. i like what he has to say in there about the good.

Jeff said...

Oh yes, "the good," never clearly defined, never clearly delineated, but the ultimate end of all existence. Words without music. Sigh.

the firths said...

words without music is great!(so too is music without words)

i invite you to submit to me your definition of 'good' (or your preferred analog) that is cleraly defined and clearly delineated.

-brady

the firths said...

words without music ARE great, that is.

Jeff said...

I cannot define the good, so I do not discuss the good. Others should follow that lead.

the firths said...

Jacob 4:12, 2 Ne 25:26- applicable?